| CUPE Ontario to recommend support for ban on Israeli academics |
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| Written by ChrisinMB | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Tuesday, 06 January 2009 05:12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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All I can say is who the f-ing hell do they think they are?
Andrew sums it up perfectly:
H/T Andrew Keyes
btw, for a background on this University... (***) :: By Darcey - CUPE president Syd Ryan compares the Jews to Nazis.
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Bob Devine
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... What can you say? Unions stand up for all the most useless a-s holes in the world. (especially the government employee ones) I would not expect any less than for them to back the ultimate scum of the earth the Islamic people against a far to tolerant Israeli Nation. If those Hamas jerks stop hiding in schools, hospitals etc. the Israelis will stop bombing them. |
Darcey
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... They've voted to try and ban them before along with the stop Israeli Apartheid movement - they did however promote a High School Students Against Israeli Apartheid where Palestinian speakers indoctrinate our young behind closed doors |
been around the block
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... These bloody on-our-dime socialists (aren't they all?) are getting scarier all the time. Who the Hell do they think they are? Where's the Lynch-mob when you really need them? |
bruce hodgkinson
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... Thirty years ago, the 'antis' protested Rhodesia. Now we have 'Zimbabwe'. Now the useful idiots are protesting Israel. Just imagine what we'll have if they have their way & Israel gets turned into the islamic republic of palestine. These retards need a good long soaking visit to a sharia-governed 3rd-world sh!thole... |
been around the block
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... Write to Sid Ryan and CUPE Ontario at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . They need to be inundated with letters of outrage. |
Willie The Lyon
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... First we see CUPE pres Sid Ryan at the anti-Israel rally in TO (Did CUPE organize/fund it?)Now Sid wants to "ban" Israeli Academics...like could the bigotry be any plainer? Just what IS this on-going romance between cultural marxists and rabid antisemitic Islam? I think I have a grasp on the common ground but really, who waste time to critically analyze it when this morbid alliance should be widely mocked as "commie pal gate". If these Red unionists accept Islamo Fascism it makes sense they'd also embrace Islamo-fascist censorship....Hell Sid, why not tell us what you really want...like the ability to throw dissenters to your morbid narrow ideologies in jail...particularly Jews and Israel supporters. Sid, I want your resignation on my desk tomorrow AM...Union fascist! |
Willie The Lyon
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... BTW: I know poor Burny Farber has been taking a shit kicking over his sponsorship of state censorship and butt snorkelling of radical Islamist NGOs, but he did find the balls to take a cut at Sid's open antisemetic gaffes: http://tinyurl.com/9ul965
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been around the block
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... WL Mackenzie Redux: "Just what IS this on-going romance between cultural marxists and rabid antisemitic Islam?" From a post I made at SDA a few days ago: Sounder: "The new inverted Canada." In a nutshell. I can tell you that if 80% of Canadians went to Christian churches and synagogues on a regular basis and 20% didn't, as was the case just a scant 50 years ago, we wouldn't have many of the lib-left policies we have today or the disgusting scenes of Hamas flags proudly waving at the corner of Yonge and Dundas Streets in one of Canada's largest cities. Today, we have 20% of Canadians going to Christian churches and synagogues and 80% not. 'Talk about inverted Canada: Can we say that this flip in our habits has benefited Canada and Canadians' freedoms? If we are EVER to come to terms with what has happened in our country, re the inversion of democratic values, we have to come to terms with our national belittling of the faith of our fathers and mothers, the faith that nurtured and ensured the democratic freedoms Canadians have enjoyed up to this point. For the past 40 years, in both government and our public institutions of "education" (let's call it re-education) Canadians have been discouraged from either acknowledging, let alone supporting, Judeo-Christian beliefs and values. We have been told to dump them, while at the same time, under the banner of multiculturalism, to glorify all other cultures and faiths. Christians (less so Jews) have been ridiculed and criticized when we express our faith in the public square and have been told, in no uncertain terms, to shut up and go to the back of the multi-culti bus. A few people get it. But a whole lot more Canadians need to get -- and start speaking up about it -- before there can be any expectation of a change for the better in multi-culti, anti-Judeo-Christian, Canada. 'Ever wonder why the left supports Hamas? In part, because they're against both Jews and Christians whom the left see as sworn enemies [you know the saying? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?]. And, in many ways we are. We don't buy their social engineering schemes for the world and have often been quite vocal about it -- even though very few seem to be listening ... Posted by: batb at January 4, 2009 9:08 AM BTW: When I talk about "we" Christians, I'm not talking about the official hierarchies of most of Canada's mainline Christian churches. For some reason--isn't this how you get to be part of hierarchical officialdom?--they've been very good at playing dead while saying "hit me again" when it comes to Christians being belittled, ignored, persecuted, punished, and shut up in the public square. And all too often, they're the ones encouraging Canada's policy of "multiculturalism," even though Canada's policy is actually a beard to cover up Canada's lib-left anti-Judeo-Christian sentiments. Enough is enough. Posted by: batb at January 4, 2009 9:31 AM It's as "reasonable" an explanation as I can come up with. |
karen
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... Thanks for the cupe email. I fired off a letter to them as should everyone who thinks their bigoted proposal stinks. |
Rumplestiltskim
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... RE: BATB There are Christians and Jews who are against the Israeli invasion. For example, members and clergy of the United and Anglican churches, Jews for a Just Peace, etc. As a matter of fact, Christianity and socialism have been historically linked in Canada as far back as Tommy Douglas and JS Woodsworth, who were ministers before they went into politics. There are good points to socialism, in my opinion, but the extreme leftists who march with Hamas supporters are showing solidarity with a movement that stands against much of what they claim to be for . . as a matter of fact, the Christian right has a lot more in common with Hamas, in terms of being against abortion, homosexual rights, and for more religious involvement in the state. But the Christian right supports Israel. Israel is a secular nation with a fairly socialized economy, and a very multicultural populace, in terms of ethnicity and background, from Ethiopians to Russians and Americans. |
Frank Godon
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... Who does Israel think they are anyway - They can't defend themselves against a helpless state like Gaza with all this "disproportionate force" they are using. I expect the Americans and Condi Rice should be chastizing them any minute now. This isn't the 20th century - you don't settle problems like this in the 21st century the 20th century way. Damn - Forgot there is a double standard for the Americans and their friends when it comes to over use of force. And I was just about to compare this to Georgia and Russia.  Added: I assert that the term “disproportional use of force” is political in nature. It has nothing to do with military objectives. The military does what is necessary to win – there can never be too little force applied to win an objective. This can never be applied to the decision-making calculations of politicians. And in this case, the Israelis have done it again. Like in Lebanon in 2006, the political objective is what drives military actions. Hezbollah (democratically popular in Lebanon) captured some Israeli soldiers, then half of Lebanon was militarily leveled – twenty years of reconstruction was destroyed in a matter of days. That was a political decision and the Israeli army acted upon this with a vengeance. Don’t get me wrong. I believe that Israel has the right to exist and that its genuine security interests should be respected. The Israeli state is a political fact that cannot and should not be ignored or dismissed. But the Palestinian people should be given the same rights. Let’s remember that Hamas was democratically elected and that it represents the wishes of the Palestinians. Due to double-standards, the democratic choice of the Palestinian people is largely ignored by the West. As a result, the Palestinians have been ghettoized and basically been sentenced to death. Israel claims it was only targeting Hamas militants in Gaza and other committed adversaries of the Israeli state. But the fact is any military strike against Gaza – because of its population density – also includes the killing of the innocent. That has certainly happened today in Gaza. Israel’s politicians must be held accountable. And the world must strongly speak out about whether Israel is committed to a peace process with the Palestinians. Russia has been accused of disproportional use of force against Georgia when Tbilisi attacked South Ossetia in August. This is rubbish. If the military had its way, all of Georgia would have been subdued because of its aggression. But the political authorities in Moscow knew better. Disarm and disrupt was the mission against the Georgian (and American trained and funded) military. The Russian military did exactly what was required of it. The attack on Gaza will again start a spiral of tragedies and death. The Israelis must stop with their use of disproportional force against the Palestinians. Israel is a political fact, but so are the Palestinian people and their right to exist. |
Frank Godon
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... I had to add this - Read it just now and in a way I do agree with it. - The First Gaza War |
karen
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... That's right. Hamas was elected by the Palestinians and according to you is carrying out their wishes. So I guess it was their wish that Hamas should fire rockets into Israeli civilian populations since 2005. THAT by the way is a war crime and a crime against humanity. But no one cares. No one. Not until Israel starts defending Israelis. As for the death of "innocents", maybe the brave Hamas fighters shouldn't hide in schools or hospitals and shouldn't store weapons there or in Mosques or apartment buildings. Maybe they shouldn't fire there weapons from there either. And I am sorry, but I find the media too hard on Israel and too soft in their expectations that Palestinians behave humanely. I know this may sound Krazy, but if Hamas represents the Palestinians and Hamas doesn't want peace with Israel and only wants the genocide of the Jews living there, you can expect this cycle of violence to continue forever! |
Kateland Youngsam
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... Krazy, you are so full of such utter and complete bullshit. I'd take you on point by point, then I realized I have four years of archives reputing every single point - every single one and with pictures too. So instead, I say this to you - emach she'mo |
Frank Godon
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... Hey I'm all for Israel defending itself - but I'm against this "double standard" the west (especially the US takes) Double standards, hypocrisy, the murder of innocent civilians, and the unwillingness by Washington and the western mainstream media to recognize that a Palestinian child’s life is just as worthy as an Israeli child demonstrates that Israel has again embarked on a conflict that only sows the seeds for the next. The double standards of the West was seen in Georgia - while Georgia attacked innocent people in Tsinvalli - the western press stood by without even a whimper - then when Russia came to the aid of its citizens and Peacekeepers then it was "Russian Agression" and use of disproportionate force. The same is going on here in Israel. Yes there are anti-Israeli marches and stories in the press but the western governments are again politically taking a "double standard" here. You have to admit that most of the stories coming out are Israeli controlled and with the help of the American PR team its reports are one sided. Just a thought - Why isn't the US saying anything upfront??? |
Frank Godon
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... Kateland like I said - I'm all for Israel defending herself - I'm just against this American "double standard" bullshit. |
Rumplestiltstkim
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... There is a propaganda war as well as an actual war. I can see the Israeli point of view, they gave Gaza back to the Palestinians, giving up 15 per cent of their agricultural land in the process and forcibly evicting Israeli settlers (in 2005). Three years later the former greenhouse areas and farms are wastelands from which rockets are lobbied at Israel. If Hamas had concentrated on building their infrastructure instead of building missiles to fire at Israel, they'd be a lot further ahead. The claims of genocide are totally over the top, however, the Palestinians are definitely suffering, injured children, lack of medical supplies, food, water, but all this could have been avoided. Compared to similar wars against the Palestinians, for example, Jordan's war against the PLO back in the sixties, or Syria's massacre of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1982, far fewer casualties at this point in time. But it's a terrible thing to see and in the end the whole thing is quite senseless, it could have been prevented. |
Shere Khan
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... I may be off my nut here, but didn't jews and arabs live peacefully side by side until the creation of the Israeli state? You can't fire rockets at a civillian population and not expect to get your ass kicked. Hiding in hospitals and schools while doing it is so brave. If Gazans won't step up and help put down the terrorists in their midst, then forgive me if I don't shed a tear when Israel flattens Gaza into a glass paved parking lot. |
Frank Godon
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... Shere as mentioned One does not have to agree with or like Hamas – I certainly don’t, but because there has not been an honest and reasonable approach to finding a peace settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Hamas is a popular and legitimate reality and it will only get stronger because of this conflict. There is the problem to this conflict. Oh and Rumplestiltstkim its hard to make those greenhouses and land work when Israel cuts off your water supply - that was coming from Israel to begin with. The Israeli leaning media tends to leave that little part out. You know the old western "double standard" thingy. |
Shere Khan
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... That's the problem Krazy. Hamas plays the sympathy card with slingshots and broken bottles up against a nuclear power, and the world loves the underdog. We've seen with the Georgia/Ossetia police action how the press loves terrorists and their sympathizers, it is their left wing mandate after all, so nothing in print can be believed, especially with the standard omission of facts and truths. Israel is not going away. If Palestineans are tired of living in squalor and filth, then they should elect a leadership who is willing to broker a reasonable solution to their problems, not a pack of militant sand niggers who serve only to exacerbate and inflame the situation to garner world sympathy. In fact if you remove the bombs and the bullets, you are left with a situation that is eerily similar to the stupidity that is Caledonia. The only saving grace for the antagonists in that situation is the leadership of the OPP and their political apparatchik seem to be snivelling cowards who lack the moral compass to enforce the rule of law (not to mention it has apparently turned into an excellent job creation scheme for countless numbers of beaurocrats). |
Kateland Youngsam
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... Shere, no, not really - unless your idea of peaceful co-existence meant the Jews lived in total subjugation to the whims of their Muslim overseers. Although, it is true, compared to the Christian record, Jews suffered less pogroms, but the Jews never entirely escaped persecution in Muslim held lands either. In 1929, (long before the creation of the State of Israel) the Arabs of Hebron rioted against the ancient Jewish community there and murdered 67 Jews. The Arab rallying cry, ‘The Jews are our dogs!” |
Shere Khan
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... Thanks Kateland, now it's beginning to make sense. I couldn't make that connection. For the record, I am an employee that CUPE regularly extorts 1.5% of my gross pay in return for a $25 grocery store gift card at Christmas. It's a good feeling to see my |
OMMAG
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... Krazy... Must have pulled that from Pravda.ru eh? "It started out as a week of pounding and killing of innocents from the air and sea, now the land offensive against the inhabitants of Gaza has commenced. Israel has demonstrated that it has overwhelming military power to bring about chaos, to destroy the infrastructure of a tiny impoverished land, and sow terrifying fear. Israel has also shown that it is completely indifferent to any sense of humanity toward the people of Gaza." Revisionst garbage. Before 1950 when Israel began to build Gaza Up there was NOTHING but mud brick buildings and goat herds. The Arabs of Gaza are parasites who largely relocated there after it became developed. Before then a strip of fishing villages at the edge of the Negev desert populated by a handful of Arab Semites and Christians and no more Muslims than either of those two groups. The source of this crap was obviously some MSM piece of shit. Newspapers provide nothing of value and are less than worthless when it comes to even recent historical information. |
Shere Khan
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... OMMAG - beauty. More MSM fear mongering madness courtesy of Canada's own Pravda: THIRD HAND SMOKE KILLS!! No mention of 3rd hand automobile exhaust, third hand perfume, third hand paint fumes, third hand blaw blaw blaw. An infinite number of monkeys in a room with one typewriter.... |
Frank Godon
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... Holy Shit - That bottle of Ukrainian vodka must have come from Chernobal. I wrote all that??????????????????????????????????  |
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